[48], In March 2014, the Terri Schiavo Life and Hope Network awarded McMath's family an annual award. Can't anyone come to their senses and force this family to let go? Doctor Bastard,Can you please provide a medical explanation for that mountain of blankets they always have covering her? I seem to recall all the siblings had different last names. The expert statement "there is absolutely no possibility she will recover" is consistent with what we know- but is an opinion and is challengeable because we do not have a lot of experience with testing patients who have had long term somatic survival. Mrs Ken and I already have an agreement that brain dead is dead, though. As the Wired article states it will tell us more about the brain (and more about the tests). All the attention they should be getting is directed to a brain dead child. It was hoped these procedures would provide improved airflow during her sleep at night. If she is alive she is now 16. Apparently while in quarantine shed offer food to the people who came to visit her! The doctors had confirmed she could not see or hear!Terri's case was outright killing that is not even comparable to this debatable situation. !Also if she was white you wouldn't say have the crap you do! Mirranda's parents were successful in preventing the hospital from discontinuing somatic support but they were unable to compel them to perform a tracheostomy and insert a feeding tube. It would be great if you could remind me of his name. except for the fact I wouldn't want to waste usable organs, I would say they could do a study of that nature on me. But she looks like she's in a coma. What the courts decide here is something completely different, and to a certain extent divorced from medicine.I'm sorry if I did not make that clear. Neurocrit Care. That makes sense. Please enable it to take advantage of the complete set of features! You're looking, I think, for "back" east and "out" west.Not everything in the US is "up north" or "down south." Not once.If you actually read what the experts said about Jahi, you would know that no one has "given up too soon" on her. "It was like he thought we were dirt.". In 1968, a Harvard committee proposed that death could also be defined neurologically as the irreversible loss of brain function. In exactly the same way that the family's reluctance to permit further tests looks like they're afraid they don't want the answer.We're in unknown territory. Just go over to Yoube and enter Jahi's name in the search engine. But, the counselor in me says, the mother isn't mourning, and is seeing what she wants to see and is stuck in denial and bargaining of the grief process.. And when the time comes this fight will have hurt more than helped..In California death laws state, the body is the next of kin property.. Once they issued that death certificate that body belongs to the family and they have every right to do as they please for lack of better terminology, please don't be a smartass and say necrophilia..I don't get how they did the transition from death to on a flight with all life support still intact, once she was declared the hospital didn't remove the tubes and vent? "I agree with DocB that the cases aren't comparable to Jahi McMath but I did specifically ask Dr. Franklin about post mortem studies in PVS patients. They said she died on June 22, from bleeding due to liver failure and a brain injury caused by lack of oxygen. In 2013, Jahi McMath, a 13-year-old girl, was diagnosed as dead by neurological criteria (brain death) more than four years ago, following complications from a tonsillectomy. She was having internal bleeding due to kidney and liver failure, so her doctors removed her from life support, allowing her heart to stop. McMath's case drew national attention when her family refused to accept the conclusion of doctors who declared the girl dead in December 2013, when she was 13, after suffering irreversible brain . "You are" meaning Mom Nails. I'll start this post by answering a few questions that may or may not be burning in your mind: No, I'm not dead. I don't have any problems with a person doing that - but the odds of getting the right person are quite slim. She was quiet and smiling all the time, said Vickie Viney, an administrative assistant at the school. Also? You just tune the body up with antibiotics and pressors, more steroids back to the nursing home you go and see you again in a couple of months. However the family would just show up at some hospital demanding care and then that hospital suffers the financial loss. So, if you took your hand to the top of her head and shook it back and forth would you hear liquid brain sloshing around? An autopsy for example cannot help the dead person, but autopsies are done in the hope of helping the living. The docs told us, he was brain dead, however, if we did keep him "alive" he would forever be on machines.. My uncle was a true native, hunting fishing, outdoorsy in every aspect.. I also find it funny the psychos come here and insult people. Chump change, according to the uncle. Jahi, who would have turned 18 this year, lay in a casket painted in her favorite lavender hue. She spent so many months in the PICU because no long term care facility would accept her which is why she ended up in an apartment.http://thaddeuspope.com/images/Spears_v_Rosen_07-17-15_Opp_to_demurrer_.pdfScroll down to the attachments to view the eligibility documents. I've been following this story because, as an ICU nurse, I'm always amazed at the dynamics of denial. On December 12, 2013, her doctors declared her brain-dead. And why does she still look like she's asleep rather than like a corpse? The face look eerie out of proportion. She also has an older sister. But calling me a quack after complaining that I called someone else a quack is pure hypocrisy. Just my opinion. Is that the photo where it looks like her nose is missing? But the page is basically dead, dormant, no activity. Jahi's body appears to look ok because it is receiving oxygen and nutrients. There is a man who was declared brain dead and "came back" after being in a coma for 12 years. Doc, what is the name of the young boy that stayed on life support for 10 or 15 years? No judge in America can get away with an order to remove her from life support after have seen that video. It's hard to argue fraud in that case. It told us something we would not have known- about fMRI scanning, namely that there are false positives when we correlate clinically. She is a corpse that is being kept from decomposing through artificial means. 2) I call Byrne a quack for a very good reason, which I elucidate in other posts. Her family refused to accept the diagnosis, and she was transferred to New Jersey, which offers a religious exemption to brain death. Most of all her supporters are sick in the head. Over time, I realize Nailah is a mother just as I am. She's in the denial state, chronic, of the five stages of grief. And no I don't think Jahi McMAth will ever wake up. Even if Jahi had been moved from California to Seattle, due north of Oakland, no one in California would say that she had gone "up north." His was the expert opinion on which the family based their belief that Jahi was no longer brain dead.Alan Shewmon.one of the brain death experts had to say about Alan Shewmon. This will come up again. The problem is that the 50 cents you are so willing to contribute could go towards someone who actually has a chance to recover. [55][56] Dolan then withdrew the petition for the October 2014 court hearing[57] and requested that the involved doctors collaborate, stating that "with an open and transparent dialogue between health care professionals, only one conclusion can remain: that Jahi McMath is not brain dead. Jahi died on June 18, 2018, from abdominal complications. Time will tell. Although legally dead, she continues . I mean shouldn't the hospitals in this lawsuit be interested in having this done?I feel sorry for the ones left standing in the background, the other children (siblings) who've been deprived of being able to properly grieve their sister, who were deprived of a mother caring properly for them .. Not certain how much if any: money plays a role. The brain dead person is taking up a bed and staff time that can be used to care for someone who can actually be helped. Look, its really simple at this point: the family is milking this corpse for money. It seems this family and their supporters are all crazy. Have worked in the graphics/photo arena since the 1980's. In September 2016 the family announced that Jahi is initiating breaths on her own. Money Metals Exchange, LLC Michelle Blackburn, Matt Johnston Quoted one price and charged another. I'm going to refer you to this citation.http://www.cmq.org.uk/CMQ/1995/neuropath_tony_bland.htmlA long time ago I wrote a piece on the legal problem of Tony Bland, who was a victim of the Hillsborough football disaster.This discusses his brain postmortem and that of Karen Quinlan.It speaks for more sophisticated imaging in coma patients.Cory. This doctor signed off on the application with diagnosis code 348.1, anoxic brain damage. I want to see the test results for 2017 and the latest update. 3) You are welcome to call me whatever you like, and I've never once claimed that having a blog qualifies me as anything other than an amateur writer. This is unhealthy for them. Jahi McMath update.not really. The general idea that, once the brain dies, the body falls apart physiologically and deteriorates within days to weeks was not, in retrospect, Jahi's case. Would her heart have been damaged? Trust me I am well aware that neither of those patients were brain dead.But the principle in Bland and Schiavo applies here.That is - to learn more about the brain in traumatic, anoxic, and degenerative situations, when there is long-term somatic survival we should be doing more imaging, not less.The issue I am addressing is not whether JAhi is PVS- the issue is what is going on in the central nervous system in a patient who was declared brain dead more than three years ago, yet survives somatically.This is isn't a routine diagnostic issue, nor is it a management issue for our purposes. it is a horribly convoluted case, once you start looking for liability. There are innumerable stories of comatose patients waking up after months or years and making dramatic recoveries. For someone to bleed out from their oropharynx in an ICU would require many, many errors by many people. Insurance isn't going to pay after a diagnoses of brain death. The government involvement in that case was scary. Of course, his autopsy showed his brain to be a calcified mass. and yes, they are acting out in response to the neglect. This was back in 81, they did the tests, showed no blood flow to the brain, showed shadowing of the brain from the swelling of the brain crushing parts of his brain.. Why continue artificial support while she was coding if brain damage would have been so severe? Because overall her body been legally turned over to her mother. [15] However, on February 1, 2019, the case to revoke McMath's original death certificate was voluntarily dismissed by the plaintiffs. Different types of brain injuries. "The brain stem auditory evoked potentials test performed at University Hospital on September 26, 2014 . What about that "quack" Doc Bastard? there is no way in HELL that family could or would get the death cert reversed. Looks like they took a photoshop tool and just filled in the areas. I agree with the other comments!! Here's a link to a 4 year old that was maintained on a ventilator for 20 years https://hods.org/pdf/Long%20Survival%20Following%20Baterial%20Meningits-Associated%20Brain%20Destruction1.pdf So the "anonymous" poster should read that if they think Jahi can't be dead because she is not decomposing. I think Shewmon was taking the family's word for it just like he took their word for her supposedly moving on command since he admitted she never moved in his presence. I still love him, I still miss him, we still visit the cemetery he is buried next to his brother in, I still talk to them. It's the one where she has a white zit? Looks like her account is private. Not being medically trained, I am asking if this is possible? Clipboard, Search History, and several other advanced features are temporarily unavailable. I hope it's not too late to ask a question. [15][63], Dolan stated that he intends to continue his pro bono case to have McMath's California death certificate revoked and her date of death established as June 22, 2018. Perhaps Jahi is temporarily dead for tax purposes?Zaphod Beeblebrox: Did you talk to the big noiseboy?Ford Prefect: Hotblack? well, considering California, which is the southern end of the western US, considers themselves part of the pacific northwest, I can see that opinion. Why not just wait and find out! Truly Reconciling the Case of Jahi McMath. Doctor BastardI know the family has to feed and bathe Jahi, but what kinds of medical care might she be receiving? But remember most patients with brain death die somatically in a very short period of time, so it is not an issue for them. It was compelling: a 13-year-old in Oakland, California, declared brain-dead after a tonsillectomy, with her family at odds with that determination. My wishes are verbally known to my family AND all legal documents have been completed/filed to accomplish this in accordance with my wishes. How does one go from having necrosis on the lips and very thin, thin hair and waxy complexion to looking like she did 3 years ago? Because wouldn't menstruation require hormone input from the pituitary (in the brain)? I have a question. Other than that, your comment was lovely. It's a crock. There is a marker placed between her thumb and forefinger, with the tip of the marker on a piece of paper that has squiggles of different colors on it. This doesn't mean, however, that isolated people every so often make a donation. The corpses brain can be liquefied and some of the organs will still function. I watched the video maybe three times, because I thought I missed it the first time. Sadly, that young man has passed away. People sometimes assume New Jersey is cold just because most of our citizens are. The attorney later withdrew this request, saying he wanted time for the court-appointed medical expert and his own medical experts to confer. When this first happened, I put a number of respectful comments on their Facebook page eventually they saw that I didn't agree with them and I was blockedBUTtoday I do question those who said she was brain dead as almost every medical professional had spoke of our brain liquedifying soon etcand that there was no way this would go on beyond months.I do now think that if life support was not taken off initially so soon perhaps should would have had a chance.I was just reading about a woman in 20 years of coma (I know Jahi is beyond that) waking up and had been conscious and aware all those 20 years. I don't understand how that could work and given the chances of a false positive couldn't that give desperate families even more of an incentive to continue futile care?https://www.wired.com/2009/09/fmrisalmon/, Complex question there and I had to read the Wired article. In mot other cases my experience has been that families do not want to prolong the situation - in this case the McMath's are again an exception. [9][10][11][12][13] In March 2015, McMath's family filed a malpractice lawsuit against Children's Hospital Oakland and against the surgeon who performed McMath's surgery, indicating they were prepared to argue as part of the lawsuit that McMath is not dead, but profoundly disabled. Not too long ago, Granny posted about Jahi playing the piano, giving thumbs up signs, picking up popcorn with her fingers. When Jahi McMath was declared brain-dead by the hospital, her family disagreed. ." . It's strange that they posted it as the results pretty much disproved everything her supporters were saying Then again that entire farce was strange LOL. [32][33], On December 24, 2013, Judge Grillo ruled that McMath was legally dead,[34] basing his decision on the medical evidence presented by physicians from Children's Hospital Oakland and from independent expert Paul Fisher, but ruled to require the hospital to continue mechanical ventilation until December 30, 2013,[32] later extending this order until January 7, 2014. To me it looks like guilt. No movement whatsoever, yet everyone one the Jahi Facebook pages got all excited that this was somehow demonstrative of her healing. He spent some hours with Jahi over a two day period back in December of 2014 but these two purported periods were said to have occurred in August and September of 2014. Then months later her mother put up a photo that looked "retouched" to me. [53][54], In October 2014, McMath's attorney, Christopher Dolan, held a press conference where he said that recent medical tests had detected blood flow and electrical activity in McMath's brain and where he released videos which he said showed the girl moving on command. [9][10][11][12] Paul Fisher, M.D., the court-appointed independent expert who had confirmed McMath's diagnosis of brain death in December 2013, said that the new evidence presented did not refute his earlier determination of brain death. Could you please provide links to where you read about almost every medical professional had spoke of our brain liquefying soon etcand that there was no way this would go on beyond months. That would amount to treating her as a curiosity and doing tests on her just because her heart should have stopped by now but hasn't. it's okay, you have healthcare and emergency response people here. "So if her brain is literally dead meat inside her skull, how is she not literally rotting away from the inside out? Email: rswan@sfchronicle.com Twitter: @rachelswan. Remember Jahi was right as the repeal vote was happening related to California tough malpractice protections. PICU and helped receive guidance from the ethics committee. Terri Schiavo's autopsy revealed an atrophied brain and the child who survived for twenty years on organ support had a calcified brain. I think you would want to be more photographically trained to address that topic. Ken, I am photographically trained. Her magnetic resonance imaging scan 9 1/2 months later surprisingly The name Jahi means prominent, famous and widely known, and she definitely lived up to her name, said Wanda Johnson, a family friend and mother of Oscar Grant the 22-year-old man who was fatally shot by a BART police officer in 2009. This article summarizes her clinical history over those intervening years, taken directly from her medical records and personal observation. Oops, while editing I forgot to delete the last sentence. She doesn't understand how the vent works, apparently, because there is not one single patient-initiated breath. I doubt anything short of McMath's heart stopping will convince her mom but legally, from what I understand, fMRI studies aren't even admissible as a lie detection method because the results can be too variable.I'm curious whether there would still be brain structure left after all this time on somatic support. That makes a whole lot more sense. It stemmed from Jahi losing fecal waste through every orifice because of her insides slowly breaking down and liquefying. I realize the dead salmon study I link to was done back in 2009 as kind of a lark but since then has there been more reliable research done regarding how useful fMRI would be as an ancillary test when it comes to diagnosing brain death? Jahi' s family was used and is now allowing themselves to be used for financial gain. Upon issuance of a death certificate shortly after the declaration of brain death, Jahi was transferred from California to New Jersey, where the law includes a religious exemption from the neurologic determination of death. and if so, can the state step in and ask them to stop funding unless proof is provided that Jahi is indeed alive? Living on a machine will not make me be me, and it will not fix regrets or bring comfort, if I die mine will not stop loving me, so forcing me to be alive so you mine can continue to love me, is not justification.. My family had to remove a very young uncle off life support, 23 years old.. Was shot execution style in a home burglary. Does she menstruate like a normal 16 year old female? NEW PAPERS ARE PREFACED BY * How many true surprises are there in life? I believe some of your questions have been answered in the comments and FAQ of this blog. There she became statutorily resurrected and was treated as a comatose, living patient for the next four and a half years. The hospital described these procedures as complicated. It is not really "up north." The body decays once oxygen is stopped from perfusing tissue.These results as noted by the true experts indicated that she truly is dead. I always hear neuro experts say "Well,in brain death you can see this or you can see that." But it's an inevitable end,. For the remainder of her life, expect to hear in one way or another (books or movies) how MomNails was oh so forced to "kill" i.e. Thank you. and transmitted securely. You can see the photos here: http://kesselrunin12parsecs.tumblr.com/post/91275477091/mother-of-the-year-41017-i-have-been-out-of. I have no difficulty accepting that a diagnosis of brain stem death equates with a statement that there is no likelihood of recovery and so all further treatment is futile. In your case, it was the surgery that caused a hole and a leak.The bone wax was used to plug the whole. Not you, you. If they appeared that way, they were just chapped. I've tried to Google to find it but had no luck. It's certainly an unprecedented situation.
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